Taylor DiRocco: my mom's 238 has the same issues....FTF and stovepiping. I shot 50 rounds
the other day and it malfunctioned 5 times. That is a no go. Sigs have a
reputation for reliability but it seems that this model was a screw up.
I'll stick to my Glock, 1000 plus rounds with no malfuntions
gabe200027: Sig seemed to clean the problems up with the new version (although they'll
tell you that they never released a new version).
gabe200027: @mgiaco52 Thanks for the post.
oilhammer04: I bought a P238 this year and shot 10 different kinds of ammo, to see which
shot the best. I had no problems with the gun and Gold Dot 380 auto, 90 Gr.
GDHP ammo gave the best group. The gun shoots flawlessly.
gabe200027: See if you can get Sig to replace it. I have zero problems out of my new
sig. Please see my P238 Equinox video.
Ballistic Solutionz Channel: And you have to keep tiny guns like that very clean...
gabe200027: I love Sig's too. I'm glad that they made good. Thanks for the post.
gabe200027: @mikekattaneh 95% of the time I carry the Springfield EMP. I've never had a
problem with it.
Ted Koski: Sorry to hear about this. I just got this Sig. The reason I ran across your
post, I was Cking out a differant problem. The Gun will half rooster itself
when slightly pushed back the slide (placing the gun in holster) and the
hammer will fire half roostered in the safety on position. The instruction
claim the slide will not move when the safety is on. I know you are not to
have a round in the chamber with the hammer laid on the pin. But I also
dont like a gun roostering itself, and firing in a locked pos.
gabe200027: @chug1948 I might go that route too "Kahr". Thanks for the post.
streamfisher1: good vid, I also have 2 p238s and both barrels look like yours.
Ted Koski: @gabe200027 Yes of coarse. I just bought this gun before the holiday. This
is a $700.00 gun and I dont believe it should rooster itself? Now I havent
fired it yet. So I dont know if it will drive the firing pin? I went to
Cabelas and they to dont understand it. They told me to call Sig. I am not
happy with any gun the roosters itself and fires in a safety lock position,
regardless if I should or should not carry a round in the chamber. Slide is
not suppose to move and rooster a gun. Please keep me post
fbtool: @DrewCombest Drew, I agree on the Blazer alum ammo. I have a Keltec .380.
After break in it shoots flawlessly for 2 years now. I bought some Blazer
and it turned into a jamming machine. I gave away the rest of it. I've only
been carrying for a couple of years but learned my lesson ammo makes a big
difference with reliability issues.
RockSolidFirearms: My girlfriend and I each own one of these. We have not had any issues at
all. Several hundred rounds through her Equinox and my Nitron without a
single malfunction. I'm glad to read that Sig took care of your problem. I
own 7 Sigs, including 1 rifle, all purchased in the last 11 months, and I
absolutely love each one!
Shorthair ptr: I bought a P238 with ambi safety and on occasion it is jamming. I've tried
2 different Sig Sauer magazines & 2 different brands of target ammo and it
is still happening. Even though its on occasion, is it possible because its
a new gun, problem with the gun itself, or how I am holding it? I only shot
75 rounds so far. Tomorrow, I am taking it to the store where I bought it.
They have a range there so I will put some more rounds through it..
yakitoriPB: in most cases...the fail to eject is caused by improper reassembly. the
ejector arm/finger can become bent or bind if not done properly. All it
takes is once. I shot 300 rounds this weekend to break mine in and not a
MessengerAT: Do you love it? I'm thinking about getting the black one with the rosewood
grips. Also, do you use it as a pocket carry? That's my intentions for
timothy1045: Rainbow edition... lol
Ballistic Solutionz Channel: Polish the feed ramp, and change the ammo, blazer more than likely the
gabe200027: @tkcenterline1 “ “roostered and locked” is one of the safest ways to carry.
Many police agencies, SWAT member and military special forces carry such a
weapon. This particular firearm did have a recall on the hammer dropping
after the safety was disengaged. This problem occurred when the firearm was
first introduced. Continued below...
Colonel S.: My first you tube comment for your consideration.Purchased Sig P238 SAS in
July. Beautiful weapon, favor 1911 platform. Expensive! Fired over 150
rounds mixed brands... experienced FTFeed problems on almost every
engagement (usually 5th rd) slide would not return into battery= constant
clearing. Used Sig and Colt Mustang mags to no avail.
Assy/disasy/lube/relube by myself and 2 armorers, no change. Retired Army
armor officer, w/solid weapon exp. Traded Sig out for a Kahr. Be careful on
gabe200027: @tkcenterline1 1911’s should not be able to be fired in a half-roostered
position. It’s a bit concerning that the P238 is able to be fired in this
fashion. I know that Sig also recommends that it be carried in the roostered
and locked position. I’ve checked four other 1911 style guns including a
1977 Colt up to a new NightHawk. None of them fire in the half position.
Thanks for the feedback. I’ll post a new video sometime in the near future
explaining this issue.
John Simpson: Has anybody figured out how to EASILY disassemble/assemble the magazine(s)
for cleaning? I haven't seen any mention of this problem and I'm wondering
if I just shouldn't do it. I just bought the gun 2 weeks ago with no other
problems as far as firing, etc.
JohnnyBoyCali: I bought one about 3 months ago and I've had nothing but problems. Sig sent
me a new magazine and told me not to use WWB. The new mag didnt help and I
get all sorts of jams. I'm not sure if I should call Sig again or just sell
it. I kind of feel bad though selling a gun I know jams. I hate this stupid
dnnyshdy: I had problems with mine too.It felt loose when I shot it,it jammed several
times and sometimes the slide wouldn't lock open after the last round.I
sent it in and they said they ran 50 rounds through it without failure.I
was not limp wristing it either.I have strong forearms and a strong grip.I
traded it for a glock 26 and haven't had any problems with it.
Ted Koski: With regards gun roostering it self to a1/2 rooster position and firing with the
safety on, I just got a call back from Sig Customer Service, who had ck'd
with their gunsmith engineer regarding this issue, I was told "yes the gun
will fire in the 1/2 roostered position". I was told that when placing the gun
in my holster, I'm to place my thumb on the slide to keep it from roostering
the gun. I cant believe I heard this direct this from Sig Sauer. I have a
real problem with this issue : roostering & firing.
d993s: If you Sig lovers would bother to check recent reviews prior to rushing
into buying another Sig, we wouldn't have to see all these problems. MOST
of the Sigs made in Exeter (in the last couple years) are CRAP and have FAR
more problems than Kel-Tec and Taurus. That's pathetic for guns in the
LoadThaGun: Dude, this vid is so clear! What camera do you use? Thanks
gabe200027: @223JMH Canon SD970IS. Glad you like it.
gabe200027: @tkcenterline1 I do, and will continue to have the upmost faith in the
safety and carry of this firearm. The bigger question is... Will you be
able to shoot flawlessly through an entire mag without a problem, every
time!?! For me... the verdict is still undecided.
w0lfw00d01: The spur is being created by the magazine... as the firearm is fired the
barrel tilts back lowering the feed ramp in which it collides with the
front side of the magazine causing this spur. This was a problem with the
early gen of the p238's but is now fixed and no longer causes this damage
to the feed ramp.
TurboFan11: Bottom line. Don't buy American made Sigs. What has happened is Sig has
attempted to save money by initially manufacturing the 22 series slides in
the USA. Sig Germany lost "see through" with product manufacturing, thus
loosing German quality for good. Once American manufacturing got a portion
of production, the American ethos of QUANTITY over QUALITY took over and
this is the result. This is why the US auto industry is going under and you
will see it everywhere else until the US changes!
kihiu\: So you found the spring fixed most the issues with FTE FTF etc...? Sig
claims the spur on the barrel is normal wear and tear.....anything new?
streamfisher1: I kind of figured it was the recoil spring smacking it while shooting. Just
a guess though.
gabe200027: @craigdamage -1. Done -2. Sold one, the other is currently at Sig -3. Have
a German Sig P232 SS. -4. I'll post an overview on the P232. -Thanks for
gabe200027: No, Sig replaced my P238 with a new one. Sig has two "27A" revisions, one
that's old and one that is built off the original P238 HD "wider slide"
design. I'm happy to report that my replacement P238 has ZERO problems.
Please look at my P238 Equinox video. I point out the new changes that were
made by Sig. Thanks for the post happy sporting.
indigosolid79: Nice Video, I also saw your polishing video for the 238, it help me out
alot..... thanks. I bought my sig p238 from its original owner I was having
a lot of problems with ftf and fte, as well as the slide not going back to
battery. couldnt even get the slide to lock back with the slide stop. I
noticed it was the recoil spring, it was getting tangled up, I called sig
and they sent me a new flat recoil spring, its about as long the gun, works
great no more problems.
TheApostleP: Sadly, reliability issues have come to be the norm for Sig in recent years
over their whole product line. But the P238 is clearly a gun that should
never have seen production in it's current form. If you're gonna carry one
for self defense, make sure you have a pocket full of rocks to throw as
well. Unless you just think they look cool in a display case, sell both of
them and buy 4 Kel-Tec P-3AT's. You can have a color for every occasion and
they'll always go "BANG!"
tuboludo: Can the 238 carry a round in the chamber un-roostered, so that you only need
to rooster it before shooting?
Brandon Sinnes: The reason people bad mouth kel tech is because they suck far more often
then any other major maker. Fewer and fewer dealers are carrying kel tech
because of the bad reputation and constant dissatisfaction from customers.
I personally wouldn't spend my money on one. I have the 238 and it's a
gabe200027: Streamfisher1, thanks for the post. I will be posting a new video soon on
what is causing the nick on the feed ramp. Look for it in the next few
rockcrawling43: Familiar* , not failure. Stupid auto correct.
rich b: Who makes the grips ???
Eric Ritz: My p238 has the same spur on the barrel but doesn't effect my gun at all.
It feeds just fine. I put 90 rounds through the gun yesterday and only had
one jam. It was the last rd. in the mag. My gun used to jam more frequently
but as I have put more ammo through it the gun seems to have worked out its
problems. You might just have to shoot it more. I have around 500 rds
through my so far. Good luck with getting them fixed.
MongoMetrix: Hollow-points are a bit more dicey than a smooth projectile.
Henry Goins: Gabe, I just fired 2 mags out of my brand new (bought 11-5-2010) P238HD
with serial no beginning 27A. First mag was slow fire, 2nd rapid. It worked
flawlessly. So far so good. I wonder if the newer units have had this
proble engineered out? The HD I have is heavier, all stainless with
Rosewood grips. I be diggin it so far. It is roostered and locked in my pocket
shortylickens69: I too had problems with feeding and ejecting. After polishing the feed ramp
and Mili-tecing the whole thing inside and out, I had no further issues.
1000 rounds and the thing shoots fine. It should be noted that full round
nose 380's tend to not feed as well as hollow points or blunt nose target
ammo. Since almost all target ammo for 380's is the flat head type, this is
less of an issue.
rdakessian: dude... your problem is your magazines! if you slowly insert the magazine,
youll see it hitting the feed ramp causing the spur... all other ejection
issues also from magazine... REPLACE IT WITH AN AFTERMARKET MAGS.... try
one and let me know ! Nothing wrong with the springs or your gun !
gabe200027: Older, Sig has three revisions of this pistol. All the current P238's are
built off the HD design "wider slide". Additionally Sig has upgraded the
guide rod, guide rod spring, ejector and extractor. I have not had any
issues with my new P238 after Sig replaced the above two tone. The titanium
rainbow was sold shortly after this post. The above two P238's are stamped
"27A". Hope this has helped.
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