Compare: Behmor Brazen Brew Vs. Technivorm KB741

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LordZaleeping: Thanks for the comparison! I think I'm going to go with the Brazen simply because I can get it for less than half the price of the Technivorm ($409 Canadian) The ability to really tweak settings is a bonus too.

Kim Skerving: A Technovorm question. I just bougt a Technovorm/moccamaster Thermo and it says in the manual that you should not use those gold/metalfilter but a paperone, i have seen you use and talk about those gold/metalfilters. Which filter is the best?
I always use paper filter in my brewer. In Europe and Sweden where i live Techovorm is also called Moccamaster. It´s my second Techovorm/moccamaster and it is the best coffe machine i have ever had. I really like you videos and have watched some. When will we see Kaylie in front of the camera.

Daniel Shafer: will the coffee taste weak if you brew 2 cups of coffee which is a single cup of coffee on the technivorm moccamaster

Seattle Coffee Gear: Thank you for sharing your experiences with others! Really helpful as folks research. - Kat

Terry K: Brazen review 1) Be aware: You have to use filtered water. Period... if you do not the machine will have to be descaled every 30 days or less (Phoenix water). 2) If you are not careful when removing the carafe, it will catch the brew basket and dump hot grounds all over including your hands. 3) The carafe dribbles. Average design. 4) When removing the filter basket after brewing, about an ounce or so of water will leak out from the distribution holes above and require cleanup of the base area.

Seattle Coffee Gear: Yeah, and we mention it, too. - Kat

closesquarters: Not sure if anyone else has mentioned this in the comments. Technivorm - glass \ Brazen - insulated carafe. I think you guys need to account for this control in your tests. Make sure both coffees are exact same temp before tasting as too hot = less flavor & a burnt tongue! Love your reviews!!!

Seattle Coffee Gear: But we need to have a tie breaker!! These are mostly about having fun with coffee ... I like the split decision because it tells the story that all these coffee makers produce very good cups with only slight personal differences :) - Kat

Seattle Coffee Gear: One has to set some parameters in order to test; as I described below, we set this to the MFR recommended settings and have done all of our testing this way, with great results. Sorry this test didn't meet your needs :) - Kat

Dustin Nielsen: It's a review of coffee makers...get your priorities in order and treat people with respect.

coachafella: The entire design concept of the Brazen is the ability to adjust the pre-soak time and specific water temp for the best results. By not adjusting coffee amount, grind, pre-soak time and water temp you are creating a very limited test of the Brazen's capability. Why would anyone pay a premium for a Brazen and simply leave it at the factory settings? The pertinent question is which machine is capable of producing the best brew, which you did not answer.

psykodragz: you guys should make the votes out of 4 people, that way it can at least be equal in votes if both machines are head-to-head with each other :D

Seattle Coffee Gear: Like I said in my response, these are the settings Joe recommended to us and we have done all of our testing with them. One has to set some kind of parameters to do any kind of comparison testing. If you think we're lazy, feel free to look to others who might meet your needs. :) - Kat

How To Make Chocolate At Home: That's kind of an interesting change in story. Was it the default settings or settings Joe recommended? I very much doubt the later as you now say as Joe has made it quite the point there is no one suggested set of settings. That they should be changed to each individual's liking. You are right. I don't agree with your approach. I found it lacking. Lazy under the guise of fair. But to each his/her own I guess.

Seattle Coffee Gear: We left it at the settings recommended to us by Joe and have done all of our testing of coffees and comparison using those same settings. I'm sorry you don't agree to our approach, as always, feel free to test and use equipment as you personally prefer -- just like we do :D - Kat

How To Make Chocolate At Home: Totally unknown since they only used one temperature. All it showed was two people liked paper filter at one temp over metal filter at another temp.

How To Make Chocolate At Home: You folks really did a dis-service to the Brazen. Under the pretense of being 'fair' by using factory settings you instead tied the Brazen's hand's behind it's back and left it 100% to chance as to whether the brew temp was good. The temp you used is not the factory setting. Mine came at 210 F as the default setting. That would be too hot, and yours was arguable too cold. "Fair" would be brewing one pot for every temp the Brazen could be set at and comparing those results to the TVs one cup

Seattle Coffee Gear: No - this is for smaller amounts of coffee grounds; if you're going to put coffee grounds in for 10 cups and then only put 5 cups of water in, brew at the same rate. If you put the coffee grounds in for 5 cups and don't slow it down, it will run through the coffee too fast and you'll have weak coffee. - Kat

Seattle Coffee Gear: Definitely need to use water that has a good mineral balance -- too hard and it's not going to extract enough coffee, too soft and it will extract too much. So weak vs. bitter. The recommendation from the fancy kids is 150ppm ... - Kat

Caffe Lusso: The Technivorm has no water filtration system, right? Do you recommend using pre-filtered water?

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