Richard Lee: That's what I was thinking too. After seeing videos of the effects of spall ripping up plate carriers so badly, some of plates fall out on the ground, raw steel plates scare me.
J Thibert: Where is your spall protection, bullet fragments will tear your arms,chin groin up.
Gear Websites: They are not website pros is all.. they are not doing anything 'shady'
Ex Law Enforcement, and they are at most AZ gunshows .. always the same prices
Ninja 87: Thank You Jennifer, not sure how I got sent to that 3rd party website then **shrug**.
I may give you guys a call, but I usually avoid companies that are not willing to post atleast some products with prices on them. You know, all that secret pricing what we charge one customer not the same as what we charge another customer kind of thing, just drives me away from nondisclosure companies.
But I may give you a call to see what you are charging for plates. Thank you.
Ninja 87: Thank You! Have a great weekend.
Gear Websites: Well I don't sell it. but I think thiers is around $200 for a set as well
Gear Websites: hard to have overkill when talking about armor IMO, lol
people use lots of stuff, some as simple as duct tape
hcdub: Interesting, what could you wrap the plates with to catch fragments? What if you put a soft trauma plate in front of the steel as well as soft armor in back of the steel? Is that over kill or would it help as far as catching the fragments and preventing blunt force trauma?
Ninja 87: Thank you for the video.
However, ArizonaArmor has a TERRIBLE website (you click the armor picture and it sends you to a separate ceiling fan company).
Anyways, when you say there is a cost comparison, could you be more specific?
Bought soft armor for the mrs at USPALM and the carrier and armor came to $200.
What are we talking with ArizonaArmor plate armor?
mastersnip02: a 30 (0) 6 its it's pronounced 30 ( ought ) 6 (30-06) sorry im just a backwoods country boy. just one thing that got undrer my skin lol.
Gear Websites: yes they usually defect the copper and lead somewhere.. but is alive and wounded better than dead? some people wrap them in something thinking that might help catch the frags yes soft armor under the plates is basically a necessity
hcdub: @GearBuyersGuide I hear that steel plates will send shrapnel fragments and ricochet bullets into your face and neck when shot. Is this a real concern? Also, does it help to wear soft armor trauma plates beneath a steel plate?
Peyton Sexton: Where can I get steel plates
Nakanokalronin: LOL, just checked out his other vids, it is him!
Nakanokalronin: This guy sounds and talks like the guy from Gunwebsites.
Looks like a Condor Plate Carrier.
akzo74: @GearBuyersGuide that's not a fair comparison, besides if you do the math the areal energy density for the 30-06 is still higher than the .223. Look at the M2 AP, it's a 30-06 and it out penetrates it's 5.56 AP counterpart. And you mentioned that steel has an advantage in that it's thinner than ceramic, but don't you still need a trauma plate backing if you don't want to get seriously jacked up after getting shot?
Theshawn: Question: Where did you get the carrier?
GrenMoyo: @RobWarrens it's obviously not rifle rated if a 223 will zip through....i got .25 inch steel plates that use AR500 steel, and i've seen that crap stop 2 shots from a .338 lapua magnum at about 40 yrds even after being shot around with 5.56 "armor piercing" green tips (did nothing), M80 ball "308" (did nothing) and even throwing 12 gauge slugs at it.... it's indestructible practically. The ones that i have though i wouldn't want to be shot by anything above a 30-06 M2 AP rounds (black tips)