CBAsystems: Pretty good thanks for showing this; always wondered about weight differences. My choice are composites today and like days of old; all about the money?
max sanchez: i love the steel plate freak that other crap
Michael Purser: *armour
john smith: Good review, GearBuyersGuide. The weight is what people need to know about. Plus, the effect of the shape, which allows for more comfort and dexterity. There is no need to actually shoot body armor, as they come with a rating system.
Fusion10861: What type of steel are you talking about? HY80, HY100,AR500, AM46100???? Bad Video
Sir Aroun: I'm doing research for a post-apocalypse game and I what to ask how hard it would be for a non-industrial/sub-industrial society to make to make ceramic armor or if they just go for the steel.
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SalveMonesvol: Actually, 1095 steel (plain high carbon steel, often used for cutlery) and be heat treated to 65 hrc. It would be easy for a plate of suck steel to defeat subsonic rounds (NIJ II A ). However, the multi-hit resistance wouldn't be so great as it's more brittle. At 3mm, it should take most pistol rounds, I don't know why it wasn't used.
diego20586: Goto Ar500armor . com, they have freaking perfect plates. Just picked up a front as well as a back plate, both are NIJ approved & are extremely light.
Cyberat Rodent: Good comparison & good video.
bloodxmoneyx187: It looks like 50 rockwell c hardness is 477 brinell. Do not quote me, this stat is from a conversion chart online at anvilfire
Cyberat Rodent: Is 500BR the same as 50RC ?
Shady Individual: Who watched this cause you do Milsim
Forthepaycheck88: Well, arrows and musket rounds share only one thing in common, they're both projectiles. Arrows were rather pointy, and designed to pierce, but a musket round was literally a ball, and did not have a pointed edge to penetrate (that was the "mini ball" was shaped more like a modern bullet). Anyway, yeah, apparently shoving plates into your shirt was indeed the answer, have you seen a Wisby Plate?
Wyatt Kachner: Pretty much. Even longbows and crossbows could penetrate under the right circumstances and were definitely known to knock guys over. It was a big deal at Agincourt. Armoring up just wasn't efficient for armies anymore when battle became a matter of getting as many projectiles in the air as possible. It is important that they didn't have our metals as well. Personally in their situation I might have shoved a steel plate up my shirt, but more than that was expensive and clumsy with minimal reward.
Forthepaycheck88: So it was more the quantity of troops that could be cranked out as opposed to the worthlessness of the armor in the face of a musket ball. On Deadliest Warrior, Pirate vs Knight episode, they actually had a hard time getting musket balls through armor plate... however, they did say the round would knock an armored knight on his ass :/.
Wyatt Kachner: The weight of the steel you would have to wear to deflect a shot from even an early musket would have been prohibitive (without the modern techniques and metallurgy). The cost was also a serious issue: knights and men-at-arms no longer fought wars: cheaply trained and supplied riflemen in large quantities began fighting. A knight could afford the best steel shaped perfectly, and men-at-arms had some armor, but peasants-turned-soldiers couldn't. Warfare changed at all levels, not just weaponry.
bloodxmoneyx187: It's what I chose. I won't say ceramic is bad, but I know I am way too hard on things for ceramic to survive for me. Plus the price is good enough that anyone can be protected. I get my plates from thetargetman, they have a coating that negates the splatter that is the main issue with steel. I also put a few layers of kevlar in front of my plate. I use iiia soft backers already. If you don't get a coated plate at least get on ebay and get some kevlar "spall" guards.
Forthepaycheck88: Wow... ask and ye shall receive... good info, man. Sounds like steel is the way to go.
bloodxmoneyx187: It's a different alloy then regular steel. Most steels have different contents of carbon and other metals than each other. It changes the hardness and brittleness to whatever you need for your intended use. Regular steel is around 150 brinell hardness and ar500 is around 500. It is also heat treated in a way that increases the strength.
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