john smith: Good review, GearBuyersGuide. The weight is what people need to know
about. Plus, the effect of the shape, which allows for more comfort and
dexterity. There is no need to actually shoot body armor, as they come
with a rating system.
Michael Purser: *armour
Fusion10861: What type of steel are you talking about? HY80, HY100,AR500, AM46100????
acefox16: i like how it says "handle with care"
zyklonzip: How much were the steel plate
Michael Scarn: Those saying that steel is better than ceramic and citing this video don't
know what they're talking about. The ceramic plate in the vid is NOT a
stand alone (not sure what the steel plate is rated for). Here's a video of
a ceramic level 4 taking multiple rounds, including AP, some in the same
spot. Type this in your search bar "Level IV Body Armor Test - Vuurwapen
Joseph Reed: You're clearly very knowledgable on the subject. And that was sarcasm.
Thunkful2: compare? I expected you to shoot at both & see the results.
Sir Aroun: I'm doing research for a post-apocalypse game and I what to ask how hard it
would be for a non-industrial/sub-industrial society to make to make
ceramic armor or if they just go for the steel.
HONORGUARD308: @MaxAC40 the IOTV is around $2000 and dragon skin can be replaced, it slips
in the vest the same as the large material comforter. sure its still more
expensive tho and the IOTV is doing just fine
Gear Websites: @acefox16 they are made of ceramic, so they can crack if dropped.. when
craked they are not as or even non- effective
GUNSFOREVER1: Why do plates say strike face...it makes me wonder.
XDsubcompact: I had ceramic sapi plates in Baghdad for over a year and they're actually
pretty resilient. I dropped mine countless times and didn't have any
problems. I also never heard of anyone damaging their plates while I was
there. It' s probably just a precaution for the idiots that think they're
SalveMonesvol: Actually, 1095 steel (plain high carbon steel, often used for cutlery) and
be heat treated to 65 hrc. It would be easy for a plate of suck steel to
defeat subsonic rounds (NIJ II A ). However, the multi-hit resistance
wouldn't be so great as it's more brittle. At 3mm, it should take most
pistol rounds, I don't know why it wasn't used.
tsunayoshi987: @lepricoun its like .7 cm thick usually or less
tsunayoshi987: @KingOfSage also the higher density of ceramic material makes it a better
trauma absorber than a steel plate
CAR15comandoSP1: is that why it says "handle with care"???
Cyberat Rodent: Is 500BR the same as 50RC ?
Prometheus3052: @GearBuyersGuide it depends on the make and brand of the ceramic. Some have
incredibly strong bonding and laminates that makes it more resistant to
damage from dropping.
Skaircrow45: Wait well why don't they just make diamond armor diamonds are strong as
freak And no I'm not a crazy fan boy of minecraft
Zacceus Ronning: from a military point of view, if the SAPI plate wasnt as good as the
steel plate we wouldnt get deployed with them.
GUNSFOREVER1: @frogseb in the face lol
TheFishCostume: Very good point.
Blunder1248: What happens if u take the steel plates and freeze it to -300 Fahrenheit
and bring it back slowly to room temp? In engineering it make the material
super strong as it steadies the atomic structure. Could help with stopping
snork707: but you get bullet fragments from steel
CAR15comandoSP1: hmmm 5 times stronger than steel... alright for the first impact but ive
seen level 4 steel plates get hit multiple times (more than I wish to
count) by 30-06 AP and honestly I dont care what you buy I'm just saying
"handle with care" scares me if its intended for Combat.
altoidfiend: Those who are wearing plates everyday, get ceramic. If you're in an
incident that cracks 'em, you'll know right away. Those who are keeping
plates for a SHTF scenario, get steel. Ceramic plates can be cracked with
bad storage (like tossing a full ammo can on top, maybe), and you wouldn't
know until it was too late. Steel will take it and keep going.
Miguel Gonzalez: how bout both?
44SCB: If u had Titanium it could be twice as thick with the same weight and be a
unedited98: Steel is crap..... bullet splash..... single curve causes it to hit your
face... They're heavy as hell ..... they rip through carriers..... they
dont stop bullets nearly as well as ceramic. If you want nice plates look
up BAE Systems Low Pro ceramic - thin, light weight and they're still Level
IV combination - not cheap - but good insurance
ChiefsFan581: lol, why don't you go make a diamond rifle plate and tell me how it goes.
Let me know how much you plan on selling it for too. xD
Wyatt Kachner: Pretty much. Even longbows and crossbows could penetrate under the right
circumstances and were definitely known to knock guys over. It was a big
deal at Agincourt. Armoring up just wasn't efficient for armies anymore
when battle became a matter of getting as many projectiles in the air as
possible. It is important that they didn't have our metals as well.
Personally in their situation I might have shoved a steel plate up my
shirt, but more than that was expensive and clumsy with minimal reward.
SNIPERSTEVE420: @acefox16 though ceramic is very breakable, it is extremeley dense, denser
than still in fact, and will stop objects from passing through it better
than steel, thats why it is used for body armor. but like he said once it
breaks, it will not be as effective.
sgtking11b: Steel plates actually hold up better compared to ceramics. Ceramics are
rated only for 3 hits 2 inches apart or more but no closer than 1 inch from
the edge in order to be listed as multi-shot. You put a round closer than 2
inches and it has a high chance of going through. Steel you can stack
rounds and ontop of each other and it may go through in 3-4 hits on the
exact same place. We tested the steel plates and 300rds later no
penetration with various rifles and cals at 15 ft.
Gear Websites: @No1Richman you sound like an ignorant racist o.O
vgman94: So what you're basically saying is that the optimal materials for good body
armor would be made with steel or similarly strong metal with a soft armor
backer? Or am I interpreting this wrong? Also, wouldn't Titanium (should
one be able to afford it) be an optimal metal in terms of strength and
xxTeutonicKnightxx: Well some sort of Titanium alloy, then yea. (the alloy part to make it
vgman94: Wow. Thank you for the enormous amount of information. I came across the
AR500 and it looked like a very resilient armor. It withstood in one video,
a 30-06 from relatively close range. Also, I came across some terms I'm
unfamiliar with. I heard of ballistic steel which is heat treated to
withstand bullets, but I've also heard of carbon steel which is supposedly
stronger than Titanium when it comes to holding a bullet. Is there a
difference between these two steels aside the terms they go by?
kyle o'donnell: do you even know what titanium is? its freakin aluminum and vanadium. it
makes crap blades too
arebear: Do you think that steel plate could withstand about 8 shots of 9mm?
1ukjunglednbraver: if that was the case they would use titanium.
thecrimsonops: what plate carrier wood take 10x12 rectengular ceramic plates just to 2
from israel good price 258 or so
bloodxmoneyx187: It's what I chose. I won't say ceramic is bad, but I know I am way too hard
on things for ceramic to survive for me. Plus the price is good enough that
anyone can be protected. I get my plates from thetargetman, they have a
coating that negates the splatter that is the main issue with steel. I also
put a few layers of kevlar in front of my plate. I use iiia soft backers
already. If you don't get a coated plate at least get on ebay and get some
kevlar "spall" guards.
fatdan172501: @fjkhoury01 its the same guy lol. they are sister channels.
lepricoun: how thik is the steel plate is this plate hardened ?
tsunayoshi987: @44SCB Titainum is not as strong as steel usually but can perform as well,
lvl 3 titainum bulletproof plates are about just as thick as steel but
weigh as much as the ceramic, however they can not be shaped as well as
steel or ceramic, the benefit of ceramic plates are that they can absorb
more blunt trauma and new ceramic plates these days depending on the type
are thinner than the ones on the video
29trecool: how thick is the ceramic plate? thanks nice review
reignick1133: The Russians during their invasion Afghanistan conflict used
Titanium...just ask them how well it went.... (Nearly) Needless to say it
was hot , heavy and didn't work out half as well as they thought it might.
Hence why they didn't "roll in & take over" A-stan it was their parallel to
the Vietnam conflict we Americans faced.
SalveMonesvol: So... 6mm of steel is the way to go? and cheaper...