Body Armor - Steel Vs Ceramic




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john smith: Good review, GearBuyersGuide. The weight is what people need to know about. Plus, the effect of the shape, which allows for more comfort and dexterity. There is no need to actually shoot body armor, as they come with a rating system.´╗┐

Fusion10861: What type of steel are you talking about? HY80, HY100,AR500, AM46100???? Bad Video´╗┐

acefox16: i like how it says "handle with care"

zyklonzip: How much were the steel plate

Michael Scarn: Those saying that steel is better than ceramic and citing this video don't know what they're talking about. The ceramic plate in the vid is NOT a stand alone (not sure what the steel plate is rated for). Here's a video of a ceramic level 4 taking multiple rounds, including AP, some in the same spot. Type this in your search bar "Level IV Body Armor Test - Vuurwapen Blog"

Gear Websites: @MaxAC40 Great points, thanks

Joseph Reed: You're clearly very knowledgable on the subject. And that was sarcasm.

Thunkful2: compare? I expected you to shoot at both & see the results.

Sir Aroun: I'm doing research for a post-apocalypse game and I what to ask how hard it would be for a non-industrial/sub-industrial society to make to make ceramic armor or if they just go for the steel.

HONORGUARD308: @MaxAC40 the IOTV is around $2000 and dragon skin can be replaced, it slips in the vest the same as the large material comforter. sure its still more expensive tho and the IOTV is doing just fine

Gear Websites: @acefox16 they are made of ceramic, so they can crack if dropped.. when craked they are not as or even non- effective

GUNSFOREVER1: Why do plates say strike face...it makes me wonder.

XDsubcompact: I had ceramic sapi plates in Baghdad for over a year and they're actually pretty resilient. I dropped mine countless times and didn't have any problems. I also never heard of anyone damaging their plates while I was there. It' s probably just a precaution for the idiots that think they're indestructible.

SalveMonesvol: Actually, 1095 steel (plain high carbon steel, often used for cutlery) and be heat treated to 65 hrc. It would be easy for a plate of suck steel to defeat subsonic rounds (NIJ II A ). However, the multi-hit resistance wouldn't be so great as it's more brittle. At 3mm, it should take most pistol rounds, I don't know why it wasn't used.

tsunayoshi987: @lepricoun its like .7 cm thick usually or less

tsunayoshi987: @KingOfSage also the higher density of ceramic material makes it a better trauma absorber than a steel plate

jimmyhoffa9: yes.

CAR15comandoSP1: is that why it says "handle with care"???

Cyberat Rodent: Is 500BR the same as 50RC ?

Prometheus3052: @GearBuyersGuide it depends on the make and brand of the ceramic. Some have incredibly strong bonding and laminates that makes it more resistant to damage from dropping.

Skaircrow45: Wait well why don't they just make diamond armor diamonds are strong as freak And no I'm not a crazy fan boy of minecraft

Zacceus Ronning: from a military point of view, if the SAPI plate wasnt as good as the steel plate we wouldnt get deployed with them.

GUNSFOREVER1: @frogseb in the face lol

TheFishCostume: Very good point.

Blunder1248: What happens if u take the steel plates and freeze it to -300 Fahrenheit and bring it back slowly to room temp? In engineering it make the material super strong as it steadies the atomic structure. Could help with stopping a bullet!

snork707: but you get bullet fragments from steel

CAR15comandoSP1: hmmm 5 times stronger than steel... alright for the first impact but ive seen level 4 steel plates get hit multiple times (more than I wish to count) by 30-06 AP and honestly I dont care what you buy I'm just saying "handle with care" scares me if its intended for Combat.

altoidfiend: Those who are wearing plates everyday, get ceramic. If you're in an incident that cracks 'em, you'll know right away. Those who are keeping plates for a SHTF scenario, get steel. Ceramic plates can be cracked with bad storage (like tossing a full ammo can on top, maybe), and you wouldn't know until it was too late. Steel will take it and keep going.

Miguel Gonzalez: how bout both?

44SCB: If u had Titanium it could be twice as thick with the same weight and be a lot stronger.

unedited98: Steel is crap..... bullet splash..... single curve causes it to hit your face... They're heavy as hell ..... they rip through carriers..... they dont stop bullets nearly as well as ceramic. If you want nice plates look up BAE Systems Low Pro ceramic - thin, light weight and they're still Level IV combination - not cheap - but good insurance

ChiefsFan581: lol, why don't you go make a diamond rifle plate and tell me how it goes. Let me know how much you plan on selling it for too. xD

Wyatt Kachner: Pretty much. Even longbows and crossbows could penetrate under the right circumstances and were definitely known to knock guys over. It was a big deal at Agincourt. Armoring up just wasn't efficient for armies anymore when battle became a matter of getting as many projectiles in the air as possible. It is important that they didn't have our metals as well. Personally in their situation I might have shoved a steel plate up my shirt, but more than that was expensive and clumsy with minimal reward.

SNIPERSTEVE420: @acefox16 though ceramic is very breakable, it is extremeley dense, denser than still in fact, and will stop objects from passing through it better than steel, thats why it is used for body armor. but like he said once it breaks, it will not be as effective.

sgtking11b: Steel plates actually hold up better compared to ceramics. Ceramics are rated only for 3 hits 2 inches apart or more but no closer than 1 inch from the edge in order to be listed as multi-shot. You put a round closer than 2 inches and it has a high chance of going through. Steel you can stack rounds and ontop of each other and it may go through in 3-4 hits on the exact same place. We tested the steel plates and 300rds later no penetration with various rifles and cals at 15 ft.

Gear Websites: @No1Richman you sound like an ignorant racist o.O

vgman94: So what you're basically saying is that the optimal materials for good body armor would be made with steel or similarly strong metal with a soft armor backer? Or am I interpreting this wrong? Also, wouldn't Titanium (should one be able to afford it) be an optimal metal in terms of strength and lightness?

xxTeutonicKnightxx: Well some sort of Titanium alloy, then yea. (the alloy part to make it stronger)

vgman94: Wow. Thank you for the enormous amount of information. I came across the AR500 and it looked like a very resilient armor. It withstood in one video, a 30-06 from relatively close range. Also, I came across some terms I'm unfamiliar with. I heard of ballistic steel which is heat treated to withstand bullets, but I've also heard of carbon steel which is supposedly stronger than Titanium when it comes to holding a bullet. Is there a difference between these two steels aside the terms they go by?

kyle o'donnell: do you even know what titanium is? its freakin aluminum and vanadium. it makes crap blades too

arebear: Do you think that steel plate could withstand about 8 shots of 9mm?

JLXZ83: Also shock absorption or stopping power of body armour plays a part.

1ukjunglednbraver: if that was the case they would use titanium.

thecrimsonops: what plate carrier wood take 10x12 rectengular ceramic plates just to 2 from israel good price 258 or so

bloodxmoneyx187: It's what I chose. I won't say ceramic is bad, but I know I am way too hard on things for ceramic to survive for me. Plus the price is good enough that anyone can be protected. I get my plates from thetargetman, they have a coating that negates the splatter that is the main issue with steel. I also put a few layers of kevlar in front of my plate. I use iiia soft backers already. If you don't get a coated plate at least get on ebay and get some kevlar "spall" guards.

Mathaius833: lols NOPE

fatdan172501: @fjkhoury01 its the same guy lol. they are sister channels.

lepricoun: how thik is the steel plate is this plate hardened ?

tsunayoshi987: @44SCB Titainum is not as strong as steel usually but can perform as well, lvl 3 titainum bulletproof plates are about just as thick as steel but weigh as much as the ceramic, however they can not be shaped as well as steel or ceramic, the benefit of ceramic plates are that they can absorb more blunt trauma and new ceramic plates these days depending on the type are thinner than the ones on the video

lazer1million: @XDsubcompact I was wearing my IBA when I fell off the ladder climbing down from one of those pre-fab cement guard towers that they used and landed on a small generator, or water pump, that someone had stored inside. Didn't crack my plate and I didn't even get hurt. Otherwise that would've hurt like a bitch. Just don't be cool, trying to carry your M4 and assault bag in one hand, and try to climb down a ladder only one handed, lol.

Cert: Building stuff is always in my family gene. My dad is a new york auto technician and taught me everything I need to know about cars. Now I sell car parts online to suppliment my income. So it does help when there's good guidance.
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Body Armor - Steel vs Ceramic 4.3 out of 5

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Body Armor - Steel vs Ceramic