kevin d: Thank you for demonstrating both LPG and Petro at the end of the video.
Excellent demo, I would agree that some forward thinking before
installation is needed.
Louie Lamoore: How long (hours) can you run that generator with that tank (assuming it is
Douglas Gant: can you tell me how many hours you have run on your generator with the kit
so far? have you noticed any problems, burning oil? thanks.
Gerald Thomas: That is so cool! I didn't know that you could do that. Very interesting.
Jimmy Ray: Tank size is important because propane is a compressed liquid. The
generator does not burn liquid. There has to be sufficient surface area of
liquid in the tank so the liquid can boil into vapor at fast enough of a
rate to supply the engine. A small tank at low temps may not be able to
boil fast enough. That's why large tanks are laying horizontal to get a
large liquid surface area. This is why propane is an excellent refrigerant.
Brad Boyington: I got the kit from us carb and the extension bolts don't fit on the carb
they much smaller did u have any trouble with the wrong bolts. I had the
rigid 6800 mx 360 yamaha from home depot
399Scott: Thanks - I'm not sure and I would ask them - very easy installation and
works really well - have'nt had a chance to use for real powering the house
yet....although the winter is coming..
399Scott: true, it's an adapter - and everything comes with the kit (regulator,
(thingy) - adapter, hoses, etc) to have this run on LP & NG...Since making
the video I was able to hook up to NG requiring a 3/4" line - NOT INCLUDED
was a 6' hose and the quick release (2 sets) is expensive (about $250) but
WELL worth the investment..I also had an interlock system put into my
circuit panel instead of a transfer switch...Everything works really well
together - Good luck!
velocitytech1: Thanks for the reply. I think you will find an actual 7000-to-7100
Running/Continuous Watts. I have found that most GENs that say they are
"10,000-Surge/8000-Running-Watts, are actually 9,000-Surge and 7000-Running
Watts. I dis-like that so many of these Generator Companies can get away
with these mis-leading figures!
dawn gacina: Scott, got mine from CarbTurbo Com, which seems like a small, yet extremely
attentive and service-oriented outfit in Minnesota. Very nice ppl, and I'm
in no way affiliated with them or even know them.
Hardwarenutz: Remember you will lose 10% of your rated hp and therefore watts using
propane, and lose another 10% using natural gas. (Using natural gas you
will lose 20% of your rated watts compared with using gasoline). Example:
If your generator is rated at 5000 Surge Watts/4000 Rated Watts using
gasoline. Using Natural Gas you will have 4000 Surge Watts/3200 Rated Watts.
smittymoo: My understanding is you loose about 25% from Gasoline to natural
gas/propane but still worth it.
399Scott: there's a few companies out there with the same product - just the one I
came across - As for the website its the worst - I'm assuming hes
overwhelmed to say the least - I've had more than 11,000 hits in just 3
weeks after the storm....
OLDSMOBILE462CI: the reason you had to pull it 12 times is you did not purge the line
Hi-Tech RedNeck: I'm curious how you wasted 2500 on a LPG conversion set-up? If you've never
got it working. Do you wanna sel your kit?
icehell0: brilliant , ok 2 question , will this converter work on bio gas and 2nd how
long will it run on a 200 pound propane tank ?
silverbankruptcy: I also found that starting these Generators on Natural Gas Requires a Lot
of Engine Rotations. Maybe you could prime it with some Gasoline. Best to
Use an Electric Start Generator. I have my conversion to Natural Gas Here:
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Scott Hale: Above Ground - it basically comes down to a 20 min job that no one will do
under a couple hundred dollars or "you want it-you pay for it"...As for the
air filter: when I put the adapter on the air filters original mounting to
the frame doesnt reach - I just let it hang and vibrate - so much that it
snapped the screws off the block holding the carb....
Scott Hale: Thanks - its a 3/4 inside diameter - I was looking all over and gave up -
Purchased this from US Carb - expensive but I didnt want to take a chance
with natural gas....I used it for 3 days w/ Hurrican Sandy Just one issue -
Make sure you air filter is secured and not hanging (Like I did) - The carb
bolts snapped off from the vibration of the motor - had to re-thread - got
it fixed but PIA
B Adams: Excellent video. Thanks for sharing. I also have a Rigid 8000. You have
saved me from having to do a lot of research. I will be definitely be
converting my generator now that I have seen your step-by-step process.
399Scott: I have the 8000 w/ subaru engine didnt have any issues with the extension
bolts - I'd call US Carb they should be able to get new ones for you OR go
to a local lawnmower repair shop - they should have them...
dawn gacina: Hi, 1st off, nice video and thx for posting it. You said that NG would've
been an expensive proposition...what exactly would've made it so? If you
have no NG line to your property then yes, I'd agree it would be too
expensive to run that just for a generator. But if you do, why propane over
NG? Thx again.
Hi-Tech RedNeck: Yeah, I could just see a video of. Poof, Uh-oh propane leak. LMAO
Larry Bamm: Excellent video! Thank you. I have been planning this project for a while.
I cracked up at your comment about not testing for leaks with a match! :)
You have to remind some people. I have a Powerhorse 7000. I think tri-fuel
is the right kit, even though I will only use propane and gasoline.
Kieran Mullen: What are the name of those other companies? US Carbs site is terrible and
Joseph Gerber: Scott, thanks for the video. I have the same gen and want to convert it, so
this is really helpful. One question, just use mine for like 150 hours for
Sandy outages, and my generator burns like 1/2 qt of oil a day. Does yours
as well? Have taken really good care of it so this was surprising. I
switched from 10w30 to SAE30, which slowed it down a bit, but still burning
jtsct: Very informative. What's the difference between the regulator on the tank
and the one mounted to the gen? Do you need both?
399Scott: 8,000 running 10,000 surge - Haven't tested it to see if that what I'm
actually getting. Also I'm not sure if you lose any power using propane or
natural gas - It does run smoother on those 2 sources though...
399Scott: That's what it's running it on in the video..
velocitytech1: 399Scott, Thanks for posting this video, very detailed and informative! A
word of caution to ALL.... ALWAYS MAKE SURE THAT YOUR GEN IS PUTTING OUT
WHAT IT STATES! It's easy to do, just need a Volt Meter. If it is not,
demand a refund and purchase one that will do what it advertises. Thanks!
silverbankruptcy: Does anyone know what the the difference is Between the Type C Kit and
their Type 4 Kit that costs $100 more?
cabinfevrr: Hey thanks for posting this. I have a 6500 watt unit that I have for
emergencies, and also take to the cabin once in a while (twice in the past
2 years) if i plan on running some power tools. It often sits for months,
and the fuel goes crappy, even with stabilizer. I've contacted my propane
guy and he will put in a quick disconnect on the tanks i have for my house
- in an emergency it could run for weeks if both the 420lb tanks are full.
I think I will order that kit, as I can still use gasoline
velocitytech1: 399Scott, Propane will give you more H.P. than NG will. Propane is the best
way to go in our book! Propane cost 30% less than regular Gas on average as
well! You can use NG of course, but you will suffer fgrom H.P. loss...which
is no big deal if you are not asking a lot from the GEN.... If I'm not
mistaken, NG cost even less than Propane. LOTS OF NEW NG POCKETS BEING
FOUND IN THE U.S. DAILY!
399Scott: runs cleaner and smoother but I believe you lose power - I really don't see
any loss but...The most power being regular gas, propane then Natural Gas -
It cost about $200 for the kit - the quick connects and hose is about
Scott Hale: I have my meter inside my house - still very high to take a 3' piece of
pipe and poke it through the foundation of the house....
Michael Smith: I think you mentioned you have 20' of flex hose between the house gas line
and your generator. That's about the same as mine will be. How do you bleed
the air out of that 20' of flex hose? I've watched quite a few of these
videos and that subject doesn't come up. I know when I turn my gas logs off
for the winter it takes a couple of minutes to clear the air out of the
line and that's a really short run since I have a cutoff valve under the
lags themselves. Just curious...
399Scott: CarbTurbo Com - That's an understatement.....
399Scott: @cabinfevrr No problem - That's one thing i didn't do is get the quick
disconnect - Worth the investment - Ran smooooth on propane - I figured I
can get around 40+ hours on 100# tanks of propane. And, I did try all 3
fuels and worked fine without changing anything.... Good luck!
paul montolla: Dont mount it to the generator! Put your low pressure regulator than put
the card regulator. After that make the modifications to the carb on the
generator but just leave a male quick connect on the carb and a quick
connect on the propane tank. This keeps the regulators at the propane tank
and it dosent cause any damage to the generator.
399Scott: That I couldnt answer - I'm assuming yes.
eastrockaway11518: Well done, thanks for the video
brkr7799: It sounds like your supply line might be too small. What size line did you
run and how far is your generator from your NG meter?
Abnermoon: Is the propane more efficient? How much was the kit?
dawn gacina: Scott, kept checkin my "inbox" wondering why u never replied to what was an
interesting dialogue but i see here u did- i think i get it now, you needed
to go 3' from your outside meter to your gen hookup? makes sense
now...regarding the air filter box, mine's just the opposite--mine "floats"
totally independent of the frame...as the engine vibrates, the carb and air
box need to be able to "wiggle & shake" free from the frame itself....your
setup I'm unfamiliar with.
399Scott: Propane itself lasts for years - How long propane will last in any
generator depends on how large of an engine - temp outside and how big of a
propane tank you have....not sure if that helped
399Scott: I cut the hose to short the first time and it crimped - I called US Carb
and they just shipped me a new one.....
Scott Hale: That's exactly why..but, since the video I did invest for a NG line - 3 ft
pipe from the main line to the outside cost almost $700 plus all
inspections (I had another quote over $1100)....The reason was because of
freezing with Propane - this worked out to be a great decision during Sandy
and all the lines at the pump...I was lucky power was out for only 3 day
most week out for 10-12 days....
Scott Hale: thanks - sorry did see this post - to my understanding its about an hour
per pound - Don't hold me to that - all depending on the temp, this is why
I decided to go Nat gas - I was worried about nat gas freezing up on the
smaller BBQ tanks -Check out the US Carb website for more details
dawn gacina: ..wait, maybe I'm confused and misunderstood u.....$700 to break off 3 ft
from your main outside [under the ground], or to go 3' from your existing
NG pipe in your house to then reach outside?