orlaimage: Thank you for your post, real nice video with good information. I have a
question: Where can I get the White Bucket? and it is safe for food growing?
Thank you again
bionikspoon: Nice work! A possible work around for your over powered pump: use the pump
to fill an elevated bucket/reservoir and let gravity feed the drip lines
from the elevated bucket. It'd be like your own personal water tower.
Marius Van Niekerk: Thank for the video and the trips. The hydroponic "bug" bit me and
currently I have 5 x 4 months old elephant garlic plants which I am going
to transplant into the dutch bucket system or my variation of it. For
"Plant food" or nutrients I will buy some liquid "fish poo" at the local
nursery and see if it works.
LARRY R: I live in Phoenix and my reservoir is buried with only 2" above ground. The
top of the reservoir is covered with a hinged white wooden lid. I'm using 3
gallon black bato buckets (12 each, I didn't think to get free buckets)
which I have enclosed within a white plywood top and sides (open at the
bottom with holes cut for the buckets) to keep the sun off the buckets and
to keep the roots dark. I use 5-gallon paint strainer bags in the buckets
and fill them with perlite, no inserts. The system works well until about
June and I don't care what you put in the reservoir to keep the water cool,
some plants like tomatoes do not produce well above 90 degrees. I totally
agree with having a larger reservoir. Keep the sun off your reservoir and
the sides of your buckets and you should do fine.
Ric: Here in South Florida I have the same Heat issues. There are several ways
to get around it. First is to only grow in the Months with R. Or just the
reverse of the North that grows in summer only. That is what I am doing
now. Shade Cloth is very popular with Commercial Farmers because it does
cut out some heat but also Sun light for growing. Finally water coolers
work great but are expensive. I am in the Process of trying to build my own
water cooler using a small up right Freezer and RV anti Freeze in a closed
loop system. Hopefully by cooling my water, my plant can survive the heat.
Shane Christopher: submerge your water! it will stay cool, at least dig a hole and put your
tote in it.
Matilda James: The disadvantage of hydroponics is you will need to buy "plant food" or
nutrition and supplements which are more costly.
Andrew Hyder: Nice system. I think the some of the heat is due to the storage tank being
black and in direct sunlight.
David Rizzo: i hope you colored the buckets as white buckets will let algae growth
rob cammer: Permies.com hope this helps great forum.
dav1099: Very nice video, try wrapping the buckets with tin foil, it will make the
inside dark and also reflect the heat of sun. I have had trouble in the
past with to much heat, when the back wall reflects hot afternoon sun and
basically cooked the plants, helped a lot when moved out from wall and got
air circulation. good luck thanks for posting. 8-)
F Williams: You might put up some shade cloth to block some of the sun and the wind.
Looks like it whips them pretty good where you r. We ended up moving our
outdoor garden hydro plants several times till we found the right place
where the wind wasn't so bad.
Jo C: Understandably this is an old video but the knowledge may help either way.
There are basically 2 options when growing in a hot environment. Cool down
your reservoir somehow to around 65-75F OR use hydrogen peroxide to keep
the root issues away. Using h202 is a last option as you will get reduced
yields compared to doing it "right" but you will get "yields" all the same.
The reduction will be something like 10-20% of what you'd get in a system
where the temps were done right and beneficials and enzymes are used. You
of course cannot use enzymes and beneficials with h202 as it'll kill them.
If you use h202 and you go with that method you cannot stop using h202 or
it's like instant root rot and an onslaught of issues from the heat. h202
will help to add back some of the oxygen you are lacking because of the
heat. Dissolved oxygen is the key problem with hot res temps and this
solution will work and correct your res issue however it won't help with
plant stress so don't add too much. Something like 2ml-3ml per gallon of
h202 every 3 days should be perfect.
Lloyd Main: Try making a spay system to cool the plants & let evaporation work for you
by watering them from over head.
Th Linn gill: Also, do you have a crawl space under your house? If so use this area to
barry some 4"air tubes that you can then run to your buckets to cool them.
Be sure to cover the inlet end of these cool air tubes with bug skreen to
keep critters out. This is an ol Indian idea we use out here in N.M. where
we have high temps also. If you deside to try this idea you can super
charge these air pipes by adding less than half thier volum with cold water
and they will act as a Swamp cooler type system. ( be sure to use masqitoe
egg killer to the water in the coller tubes so you dont get bugs.)
Jere Knowles: Put your water tank in the ground that will help keep it cooler
Th Linn gill: Alright young blood I have an idea for you. Go back to the bakery was it (
I get 5 gal. buckets for free at Dunkin Donuts and they come filled with
used coffie grounds which are great for your soil garden "Perfect PH") Get
new lids and this time when you cut the holes for your net pots cut hem so
the net posts go only deep enough to let the pots sit in to were the top
slot in the pot has part of the opening in the side of the net pot
still above and out of the lid so air can move in to your roots through
these slots This is a variation on Kratky's suspended raft method but with
your bucket lids. Or add air holes to the lids you have now to let in more
Jacqueline C. Marsh: The disadvantage of hydroponics is that you must buy "plant food" or
nutrients and supplements that can be costly.
sandertel: First of: If you use a larger container for the main water supply you get
more thermal mass and thus less hectic temperature swings..
Secondly I recommend you bury the main water supply container. Let's say
you use one of these blue barrels. They come in various sizes (have the
largest one that you can), they usually have a practical (screw down) lid
to them and they are already opaque in nature. I recommend you plumb all
the lines which need to go in or out of the main water container from the
sides, thus leaving the lid free to open at will without having to deal
with the various tubes and pipes and such...
Also device a type of covering/shading for the exposed bit of the main
water container. I like the 275 gallon IBC totes a lot but they are large
and in your case an IBC would definitely be a thing set in place with
growth in mind...
Thirdly: Try and cover the buckets which the plants sit in, this will keep
radiant heat of the buckets and helps in keeping things cool. Maybe use a
second bucket to nest the actual planter bucket into to provide shade to
the inner bucket. Don't use any insulation if you may be tempted to try
that. Insulation may become water logged with all the negative
(pests/bugs/rotting/smelling) effects that may have...
Fourthly: I recommend you look into the use of fish (of any persuasion)
instead of the hydroponic chemical fertilization thing... You could grow
Tilapia or any warm water species and harvest the fish as well every now
and again. You just have to feed the fish and supplement some micro
nutrients every week or two.
You should be able to find a micro nutrient mix and ome seperate chelated
iron powder to help the plants grow well. The fish feed and fish waste will
provide you with the main nutrients: the famous N P and K elements.
Good luck, Sander Tel.
Vibraintions: Bury your reservoir in the grounds and use pipe insulation on your
deliver/return pipes and you should be golden. If your buckets get too warm
the increase water frequency.
Chris Elliott: if you cant sink your reservoir, raise it off the concrete. Concrete will
absorb heat (from the sun), and will transfer to your reservoir....maybe as
simple as placing a couple pieces of 2x4 underneath it.....
F Williams: MHP got his grommets from Grangers
Blury Bury: great video nice build. brown roots = possibly bacteria according to the
garden pool guy. water crashing making bubbles is GOOD. nothing wrong with
that :) love the tip on the free buckets from bakeries! i will try that.
your water reservoir being black is good as far as antibacterial however it
needs to be covered,. the thing about Hydroponics & Aeroponics is it is
less bacteria since you dont have the soil involved as with conventional
growing. however without your reservoir being covered you have dust being
introduced into the system which can carry bacteria and worse if you have a
bird wishing to bath in it XP. flush all the water out and empty the
reservoir and clean it out. even sitting it in direct sunlight for 30
minutes will kill most of the bacteria once it is dry. id clean with 1 to
10 parts bleach water. then let it dry out in the sun to let the chlorine
will evaporate as well. do this in 30 minutes time and you should have no
ill effect on the plants. run your pumps on a timer 30 mins on 30 mins off
and yes your pump is pretty strong so just add some more dutch buckets
perhaps. dont forget to clean the pump too and you can use a black light in
the dark to tell if there is any bacteria as it will be fluorescent. for
cooling id suggest if not to bury the reservoir then to use a tarp as a fly
but burying is probably best and you could keep the pvc pipes cooler by
using a pool water weenies from dollar tree for a buck each. them pool
water weenies just slice it down one side and slip over the pipes or just
use the pipe insulation from local hardware store. but i found the water
weenies to be thicker and cooler but not always practical though depending
on the setup. alternatively you could use a fly over them as well though.
James, Moore: You might consider investing in a water chiller. They are pretty pricey but
it's a one time investment and it would rock your system. That or bury your
reservoir and insulate your pipes.
Tommy Graves: start over and go online to checkout the 4 inch pvc pipe hydro system with
circulating water . Your plants here are growing longer because of lack of
sun and use a 20-20-20 nutrient.
sirtom68: I have some videos here of my aeroponic outdoor system. The best way I
found to combat heat and bacteria is about 5 to 6, maybe 7 drops of
household bleach per gallon of nutrient water. It has worked for me very
well and I haven't grown an extra arm out of my neck or anythang. If you
can keep your reservoir covered and add a white external covering about a
foot around and over it you can reflect a lot of the suns heat away from ya
nutrient, which in turn will keep ya roots cooler. Like many have said,
keep the sun off your plants roots. Vent cool air from the vents under your
house crawlspace to blow into the reservoir if you can and don't run the
system in cycles outdoors in the heat, keep it running. Heat is the bane of
oxygenated water. Add an airstone if you can, overkill it. More Oxygen is
better. Keep ya pH in check, 5.8 to 6. Hope ya haven't given up. ;)
henry wade: I use one of those reflective emergency blankets and wrap my tots. I am in
ms and mine stay around 80 degrees even when it hits 95
Jbasshead ice: Your Reservoir is black which heats the nutrient solution bro, swap it with
a white one, larger if u can also, white will keep your solution cooler
than the black container, also ur drip lines need to be insulated cause
they are black too :)
Panty Snatcher: Hello use a 55 gal food grade for your water reservoir to keep it cool put
it in the ground or use a dehumidifier for a D I Y water chiller works
good in FL
jim kimball: good video how often do you have to change the water
parteofive a: what bout your wall are the plants too close , walls keep preety hot in
summer high temps?
Henry Fairbairn: definitely bury your resevoir
wckdkl0wn: Just my 2 cents. Take it as you will. System looks great. But what I would
do is find a different water container that is lighter in color. Maybe even
something larger. Also cover it some how. Tarp or something to help keep
the sun off it. This may help with your water temp problem.
MICHELLE TOPLIFF: BLACK ASBORBS HEAT MORE
Jay Michalak: Hey man... Just a thought might help you out... Try using a big cooler for
your Rez man that may help keep it cool
billrock12: Bring your setup in the house and that will stop a lot of problems like too
much heat, bugs that eat the plants, acid rains ect.. Home Depot sells a
150watt grow light for $90 and it's more then enough lighting for your
KevinRayKnight: Sink your res. into the ground. It will stay much cooler.
Rob Boone: Where are u located? I'm in Titusville on the east coast and am looking for
fellow gardeners to exchange ideas in our environment.
Stephen Edwards: keep the water cooler by digging a hole to put it into the ground
temperature will help
Ellenn Oits: if u cant bury your water bucket paint it white to reflect most sun
jffrywad: its your white buckets they conduct too much heat you need to cover them
with some black material then you'll have better results. or use black
buckets. Gl Thanks for the video.
Antoine Kerfzhan: bury your bucket in the ground and cover with insulation panel from a
mj leandro: Wow like this idea. Thanks for posting it.
joseph zimbler: TOO CLOSE TO A WALL, NOT ENOUGH SUN LIGHT, HOW DO YOU PLAN ON GROWING
ANYTHING?and you cant move it now......
Daniel Littman: Thats cool bro.
Judelia Medard: Tremendous!! I want to get into this for the new year. Building the
reservoir looks intimidating. But I think that Hydroponics is worth the
randall lloyd: The reason your water is warmer going in is due to the black reservoir
absorbs the heat & the white reflects the heat. Put a few pieces of wood
under the reservoir to get it off the hot cement and either put some
styrofoam around the reservoir or some bricks around the outside.
Gene Torres: you may also want to add a shade cloth, I'm in south Florida and had
similar situations and found that a 40% shade cloth works wonders in
keeping your system cool and promotes better growth for veggies.
xbloodz1: Check ur PH man i am sure that it well help if u have it at 5.8-6.0