James Denny: shoot the .30 that shoots 100 fpe and see it that rat can escape
James walker: 30 caliber at 12 ft pounds, my wrist rocket will do do that.
Richard Morgan: Just buy an export pressure spring it would be the best air rifle ever lol
Jordan Kleinschmidt: I'm not sure why regulations are so strict over there. We can buy airguns
that shoot 1000+fpe and no fuss is made.
Matte Edström: You need faster velocity on the bullets. I have a suped up Hatsan PCP AT-44
.22 with 370mps exit the barrel, and i never see my rats jump or flinch. I
can shoot a dove at 50 meters and they drop instantly.
Nox Aternum: Having kept pet rats for a number of years, I would have thought that it
would probably have cleaned its face before going back to the nest. They
can't stand being dirty. Also isn't .30 cal a bit of an over kill for rats,
I'm not saying that a .30 cal air rifle doesn't sound like fun but it just
Alfred Mayer: the bullet it too slow. thats whats going on :) The rat can hear the bang
and escape before the bullet reaches it. Lolz.
Yamaan Alshamma: get the daystate wolverine .303 its shoots the pellet at 950 fps
Hawkeye Pierce: That is the best argument I've heard thrown at an anti in quite a while.
Well done sir.
The Definitive Airgun Review: No FAC certificate ATM but hope to have one in the future. Thank you for
watching ATB Malc CPTV
TheRapidRatAssasin: word for word on the subject of a 12 ftibs model,or lack of.I like yourself
was under the impression a legal limit model was in the pipe line,i think
what they now plan to do is incorporate many of the innovative design
features down into other models. I know some people take what's written in
airgun mags with a pinch of salt,but Ian's certianly a man with his fingers
in lots of pies,and not usually known for dis info. So there you have it.
ATVB Shane if you hear different can ya let us know?
russtatt: I'm really intrigued by these Viper connects Malc'. Let's be having the
review pronto Mister !. lol
The Definitive Airgun Review: Our government had a knee jerk reaction to some bad things that happened in
our country. There were a couple of isolated incidents where some people
were shot. They were terrible and I understand why some people would want
someone or something to blame. But unfortunately our lot decided to ban
hand guns and fully automatic rifles. People get stabbed all the time and
run over do they ban knives and cars? No! People die from slipping over in
the bath too but baths are not illegal either. ATB malc
TheGunrunn3r: I think you'd be better served using a bow. Surely the land of Locksley
still allows unlicensed longbows?
lasourisaboyante: They can have airguns with greater than 12 foot pounds, but it requires a
The Definitive Airgun Review: It's funny you should say about aiming off to compensate LOL We tried that
and still missed =) Thank you very much for watching and commenting. It is
nice to know that I have viewers from Texas. I would never have believed
that would be possible a few years ago. Thanks again =) ATB Malc CPTV
jason hunt: wow, even bows are demonized.
The Definitive Airgun Review: LOL =)
The Definitive Airgun Review: I could if you like. They are not actually .303 they are 7.62 which I think
is .308 Would you like me to send you a few. I only have about 1/4 of a tin
left but you are welcome to them?
Mike North: I've only ever shot .177 in pistol format Webley hurricane. Why I asked do
you need to be more accurate is because of smaller pellet size in the kill
zone. But I guess if you shoot any caliber for long enough it should not
make any difference as long as your not swapping rifles with different
TheRapidRatAssasin: Ian Harford did a review in sept edition of Airgunner,in it he states "The
wolverine is without doubt the most eagerly anticipated airgun launch for a
generation,despite the fact it is unashamedly a high power FAC rated
rifle-and was specifically designed as such.In fact Daystate have no plans
to launch a sub 12 ftibs model for the forseeable future focusing there
entire Wolverine production capacity on servicing the demand they believe
exists in North America", That's the statement he makes
hetrodoxly: We have airguns over 12ft lbs it has to be on a licence, cost doesn't =
The Definitive Airgun Review: I may just have to get the Wolverine here and give that a go =)
lee Davis: looks to me i know it sounds silly but no broplem with accuracy but being a
30 caliber at 12 flbs is going quiet slow and the rats are jumping out if
The Definitive Airgun Review: Isn't it LOL Neo-vicus raticus =)
The Definitive Airgun Review: We have since worked out that the rats are moving in 0.16 of a second to
avoid the pellet! Who would have believed that? Thank you for watching. ATB
The Definitive Airgun Review: Yes you are correct. It just does not work in terms of power and speed
fastmover45: Malc i think you would be better throwing the 30 cal at the rats if a rat
can jump out of the way of a pellet. what is the pellet traveling at 400fps
you need a bayonet. you wait till you get a 22lr that will stop those rats
in a big way keep up the good work and keep the vids coming
The Definitive Airgun Review: Hi David this was filmed with a Sony HDR-SR5 night shot capable camera.
Hope that helps ATB Malc cptv
mr bad example: it's gotta suck when your "nanny-state" gov't limits the power of pellet
guns! i live in the worst state in the USA, Illinois, and it's not even
1/10th as bad as over there.
The Definitive Airgun Review: So are you saying you could hit the same amount of 1/2inch discs with a .22
at varied ranges and elevations as a shooter of the same ability shooting
.177? If this is possible why does the whole world use .177 for target
shooting HFT & FT when using 12ft lbs?
VerminSniperUnit: I can see the damage factor this will make on ratty! But a 177 kills just
as quick, cheaper ammo and faster obviously you've proved this speed is
important when controlling rats! Sub12 i mean. But then FAC you just
wouldn't used one for rats.. well around farms. Its a shame! I'm still in
two minds aether to go for 22 for rats.. but not sure 5 shots 5 dead rats
last trip all on 177 jsb 8.44.
outdoorsmanhunter: great video, also who makes your intros? cause i need one for my hunting
GTRaiDer: Sub 12flbs, 30cal in the same sentence.. 50g? You might aswell be throwing
breezeblocks at em. Shame you didnt test it as an fac tho :(.
vermin filmer: hi malc , never mind mate you can always re test it at full power once you
get your FAC :-) ATB john
TheRapidRatAssasin: I've heard Daystate have no immediate plans to put a 12ftib Wolverine into
production Malc,have you heard anything similar? ATB Shane
The Definitive Airgun Review: Thank you Jim. Alex and I were a little disappointed to say the least. ATB
The Definitive Airgun Review: Thank you Shane. The gun is super efficient! It is just too slow to get
there =) I am out tonight with a .25 ultra to see if it is any better at
getting there before they have moved. Congrats on the permission and thanks
for watching. ATB Malc
Paul Wilson: very honest malc!... i know you have alot of admiration for BSA air rifles
and for good reason they have some great products for us air gunners, but
if it dont work with your spot on hunting approach coupled with that young
lads shooting talent in that situation with that caliber then its back to
the drawing board im afraid.
The Definitive Airgun Review: I can't argue with that Goodie247 I wish I lived in the states ATB Malc CPTV
The Definitive Airgun Review: Yes wouldn't it! Thank you for watching. ATB Malc
VerminSniperUnit: What range are you going to test them upto malc...? Look forward to it
Squirrel Hunter: Another interesting vid, Malc! Well said about accuracy before power as
well (unless you fire explosive rounds that is...). Personally I wouldn't
hunt with a rifle I didn't believe was a better shot than I was (and
consistent). I shoot an FAC rifle mostly, but wouldn't if it wasn't spot
on. We owe our quarry no less than that. Keep up the good work!
The Definitive Airgun Review: It is noise not sight. It was pitch black out there so there was no way the
rats could have seen the pellets.
The Definitive Airgun Review: Thank you SH your right we do owe our quarry that much. Thank you for
watching. ATB Malc CPTV
The Definitive Airgun Review: About 325fps I think but don't quote me as this was a year ago....
VerminSniperUnit: I could be wrong but that is based on if they release a sub12 303, but that
would be pointless wouldnt it.
GTRaiDer: Cool, really would be interesting to see it as an fac.
The Definitive Airgun Review: I will be covering this in an up and coming video. The connect is awesome
but there are issues. I broke mine using it for this. Stay tuned for the
video coming soon.... ATB Malc CPTV
.30 Cal Airgun rat hunting vs .177 Daystate MK4is4.6
out of 5