.30 Cal Airgun Rat Hunting Vs .177 Daystate MK4is




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Matte Edström: You need faster velocity on the bullets. I have a suped up Hatsan PCP AT-44 .22 with 370mps exit the barrel, and i never see my rats jump or flinch. I can shoot a dove at 50 meters and they drop instantly.

Alfred Mayer: the bullet it too slow. thats whats going on :) The rat can hear the bang and escape before the bullet reaches it. Lolz.

Nox Aternum: Having kept pet rats for a number of years, I would have thought that it would probably have cleaned its face before going back to the nest. They can't stand being dirty. Also isn't .30 cal a bit of an over kill for rats, I'm not saying that a .30 cal air rifle doesn't sound like fun but it just seems excessive.

Yamaan Alshamma: get the daystate wolverine .303 its shoots the pellet at 950 fps

Hawkeye Peirce: That is the best argument I've heard thrown at an anti in quite a while. Well done sir.

CountryPursuitsTV: No FAC certificate ATM but hope to have one in the future. Thank you for watching ATB Malc CPTV

TheRapidRatAssasin: word for word on the subject of a 12 ftibs model,or lack of.I like yourself was under the impression a legal limit model was in the pipe line,i think what they now plan to do is incorporate many of the innovative design features down into other models. I know some people take what's written in airgun mags with a pinch of salt,but Ian's certianly a man with his fingers in lots of pies,and not usually known for dis info. So there you have it. ATVB Shane if you hear different can ya let us know?

russtatt: I'm really intrigued by these Viper connects Malc'. Let's be having the review pronto Mister !. lol

CountryPursuitsTV: Our government had a knee jerk reaction to some bad things that happened in our country. There were a couple of isolated incidents where some people were shot. They were terrible and I understand why some people would want someone or something to blame. But unfortunately our lot decided to ban hand guns and fully automatic rifles. People get stabbed all the time and run over do they ban knives and cars? No! People die from slipping over in the bath too but baths are not illegal either. ATB malc

TheGunrunn3r: I think you'd be better served using a bow. Surely the land of Locksley still allows unlicensed longbows?

lasourisaboyante: They can have airguns with greater than 12 foot pounds, but it requires a license (FAC).

CountryPursuitsTV: It's funny you should say about aiming off to compensate LOL We tried that and still missed =) Thank you very much for watching and commenting. It is nice to know that I have viewers from Texas. I would never have believed that would be possible a few years ago. Thanks again =) ATB Malc CPTV

jason hunt: wow, even bows are demonized.

CountryPursuitsTV: LOL =)

CountryPursuitsTV: I could if you like. They are not actually .303 they are 7.62 which I think is .308 Would you like me to send you a few. I only have about 1/4 of a tin left but you are welcome to them?

Mike North: I've only ever shot .177 in pistol format Webley hurricane. Why I asked do you need to be more accurate is because of smaller pellet size in the kill zone. But I guess if you shoot any caliber for long enough it should not make any difference as long as your not swapping rifles with different calibre

TheRapidRatAssasin: Ian Harford did a review in sept edition of Airgunner,in it he states "The wolverine is without doubt the most eagerly anticipated airgun launch for a generation,despite the fact it is unashamedly a high power FAC rated rifle-and was specifically designed as such.In fact Daystate have no plans to launch a sub 12 ftibs model for the forseeable future focusing there entire Wolverine production capacity on servicing the demand they believe exists in North America", That's the statement he makes

hetrodoxly: We have airguns over 12ft lbs it has to be on a licence, cost doesn't = power.

CountryPursuitsTV: I may just have to get the Wolverine here and give that a go =)

lee Davis: looks to me i know it sounds silly but no broplem with accuracy but being a 30 caliber at 12 flbs is going quiet slow and the rats are jumping out if the way

CountryPursuitsTV: Isn't it LOL Neo-vicus raticus =)

CountryPursuitsTV: We have since worked out that the rats are moving in 0.16 of a second to avoid the pellet! Who would have believed that? Thank you for watching. ATB Malc CPTV

CountryPursuitsTV: Yes you are correct. It just does not work in terms of power and speed

fastmover45: Malc i think you would be better throwing the 30 cal at the rats if a rat can jump out of the way of a pellet. what is the pellet traveling at 400fps you need a bayonet. you wait till you get a 22lr that will stop those rats in a big way keep up the good work and keep the vids coming

CountryPursuitsTV: Hi David this was filmed with a Sony HDR-SR5 night shot capable camera. Hope that helps ATB Malc cptv

mr bad example: it's gotta suck when your "nanny-state" gov't limits the power of pellet guns! i live in the worst state in the USA, Illinois, and it's not even 1/10th as bad as over there.

CountryPursuitsTV: So are you saying you could hit the same amount of 1/2inch discs with a .22 at varied ranges and elevations as a shooter of the same ability shooting .177? If this is possible why does the whole world use .177 for target shooting HFT & FT when using 12ft lbs?

VerminSniperUnit: I can see the damage factor this will make on ratty! But a 177 kills just as quick, cheaper ammo and faster obviously you've proved this speed is important when controlling rats! Sub12 i mean. But then FAC you just wouldn't used one for rats.. well around farms. Its a shame! I'm still in two minds aether to go for 22 for rats.. but not sure 5 shots 5 dead rats last trip all on 177 jsb 8.44.

outdoorsmanhunter: great video, also who makes your intros? cause i need one for my hunting videos

GTRaiDer: Sub 12flbs, 30cal in the same sentence.. 50g? You might aswell be throwing breezeblocks at em. Shame you didnt test it as an fac tho :(.

vermin filmer: hi malc , never mind mate you can always re test it at full power once you get your FAC :-) ATB john

TheRapidRatAssasin: I've heard Daystate have no immediate plans to put a 12ftib Wolverine into production Malc,have you heard anything similar? ATB Shane

CountryPursuitsTV: Thank you Shane. The gun is super efficient! It is just too slow to get there =) I am out tonight with a .25 ultra to see if it is any better at getting there before they have moved. Congrats on the permission and thanks for watching. ATB Malc

Paul Wilson: very honest malc!... i know you have alot of admiration for BSA air rifles and for good reason they have some great products for us air gunners, but if it dont work with your spot on hunting approach coupled with that young lads shooting talent in that situation with that caliber then its back to the drawing board im afraid.

CountryPursuitsTV: I can't argue with that Goodie247 I wish I lived in the states ATB Malc CPTV

CountryPursuitsTV: Yes wouldn't it! Thank you for watching. ATB Malc

VerminSniperUnit: What range are you going to test them upto malc...? Look forward to it

Squirrel Hunter: Another interesting vid, Malc! Well said about accuracy before power as well (unless you fire explosive rounds that is...). Personally I wouldn't hunt with a rifle I didn't believe was a better shot than I was (and consistent). I shoot an FAC rifle mostly, but wouldn't if it wasn't spot on. We owe our quarry no less than that. Keep up the good work!

CountryPursuitsTV: It is noise not sight. It was pitch black out there so there was no way the rats could have seen the pellets.

CountryPursuitsTV: Thank you SH your right we do owe our quarry that much. Thank you for watching. ATB Malc CPTV

CountryPursuitsTV: About 325fps I think but don't quote me as this was a year ago....

VerminSniperUnit: I could be wrong but that is based on if they release a sub12 303, but that would be pointless wouldnt it.

GTRaiDer: Cool, really would be interesting to see it as an fac.

CountryPursuitsTV: I will be covering this in an up and coming video. The connect is awesome but there are issues. I broke mine using it for this. Stay tuned for the video coming soon.... ATB Malc CPTV

TheRapidRatAssasin: PS,i reckon that .25 ultra will turn out to be a real effective rat buster,i look forward in anticipation to the vid.ATVB mate...shane

TherealTimWeihmann: lol matrix style rat^^

Natt Paine: Hi malc im not sure whether its okay with you but i just want to say i have an SMK XS19-18 break barrel .22 air rifle to sell but not getting much luck at the moment...i need the money to go towards a BSA ultra multishot! if anyone sees this and is interested plese PM me sorry for advertising Malc but im not having much luck at the moment!

TheRapidRatAssasin: It's slow because of the size and weight of the pellet isn't it FMG?A sub 12ft pounder in .177 is going to be as fast as any other PCP on the market,MK4IS aside,so i wouldn't think they'll be a problem,don't know if Malc echoes that.

whiff1962: I have a 35 Ft/lb modified Benji Disco that would go through that rat and hit another.

David Emmett: I AM VERY INTERESTED TO KNOW THE TYPE OF YOUR CAMERA. I'D LIKE TO GET ONE. IT SEEMS TO PERFORM WELL AT SLOW MOTION VIDEO. THX.

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